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Background Pony #3820
I would prefer it to be called something like derpaibooru instead like e6ai
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Scarlet Ribbon

@Background Pony #A922
It’s worse that that. It can be done in less than a minute using Paint.net. It’s not about the amount of effort, it’s that people don’t TRY.
And to be fair, I get it – My personal interest in AI generated art is to see how good I can get things to be without manual intervention from prompt to finished image. But I also don’t upload a lot of art, either, because I’m not foolish enough to think it’s all amazing.

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Admin

Administrator
@Zerowinger
There won’t be an automatic import of those as the script doesn’t like dupes, but I’ll manually import the ones that are missing when it happens.
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Site and Policy » Opening Thread » Post 53

Background Pony #E58B
Got a request from Derpibooru to copy it to here:
@Local Sugar Provider
PLOT TWIST: Imagine you post real art in Tantabus, but it get deleted because its not real ai pictures
>>2017874t
Im just joking around ;p
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Site and Policy » Opening Thread » Post 52

Zerowinger

3-3/4" Army Man Fan
Since we’re still allowed to upload ai generated images on Derpibooru until the 14th, and those will stay until early January, will any future images be imported from Derpibooru? I ask because I still posted some both over there and here, and was wondering if what I already have uploaded would be overwritten by a future Admin import.
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Site and Policy » Opening Thread » Post 51

Background Pony #07EC
Thank you for the clarification.
Will there also be one more automatic backup before purging proper begins?
You may still want to keep that script in mind, if it would also save the comments of those images and you have any interest in said comments. I’m currently putting together a few tiny programs in Javascript that’ll hopefully let me set up a mass-favoriting system for a Derpi account and subsequently use one of the programs I’ve seen recommended in the update thread over there to download all the AI images I’ve favorited ‘off the record’ (saving the links in text files) with comments attached, since I know for certain at least a few have comment chains that I enjoyed going through or I made note of for future inspiration.
I’d also be happy to share them once they’re ready, and I’ve gotten approval that multiple people using them won’t break anything. (I’ve got a few years experience in dabbling with client-side Javascript, not so much XML.)
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Site and Policy » Opening Thread » Post 49

Admin

Administrator
@Doomguy397
Do you have an example post? The copy from derpi was only up to Saturday morning (euro time), so anything posted there over the weekend won’t have automatically made it over.
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DroolingDreamer

I still don’t know why Derpi didn’t automate their two image limit. Website should stop someone from submitting third AI image instead of having admins delete excessive images after the fact.
Because some people make it so other people can’t have nice things. Quick circumvent just because I could see some people being petty about it: not adding the AI tag (doesn’t require any artist tag on upload, and could still put artist needed as placeholder), and placing the relevant tag after the fact. Quick way to juke it. Why someone would do this? Fuck knows. But I wouldn’t be surprised if someone did already.
It could even queue the image to be auto-submitted later to stop people from circumventing the limit by omitting the AI tag (assuming that would even be a semi-common problem).
A system that doesn’t exist yet that would have to e built from the ground up to work with the site is more work than just spinning up another site, I’d guess. Also relieves the [apparent] main site workload to work on the other non-AI content reports.
A ghost signature removal is a 5 minute job with the clone/patch tool in GIMP
(Or Krita)
@Background Pony #0B6C
I won’t lie: I’d rather there still be more AI porn content rather than barring it. The more overall content, the merrier.
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Background Pony #1920
@Background Pony #0B6C
You won’t be the only one. Quarantine sites are always less popular for obvious reasons. I suspect that’s the intention though. Very sad indeed. Maybe someone will find way to make some sort of front end that combines the two but I’m not holding my breath or going to two websites to get the same content I used to get from one.
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Site and Policy » Opening Thread » Post 42

Background Pony #0B6C
@Background Pony #0B6C
But maybe that can be somewhat right. After all, I’m one of those not so interested too. Although I do enjoy good Ai generated images and I’m tried to play with generation before, I’m more used to draw by hand and unlikely will be regulars on exclusively AI oriented website. Maybe there will be more like me, than other. At least I hope so, tbh.
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Site and Policy » Opening Thread » Post 41

Background Pony #A922
I still don’t know why Derpi didn’t automate their two image limit. Website should stop someone from submitting third AI image instead of having admins delete excessive images after the fact. It could even queue the image to be auto-submitted later to stop people from circumventing the limit by omitting the AI tag (assuming that would even be a semi-common problem).

Considering Derpi mods’ complaints about prompters having zero clue on how to edit their generations, Tantabus could use a page containing links to image editing/inpainting guides. This would have a positive impact on stuff people will upload here. A ghost signature removal is a 5 minute job with the clone/patch tool in GIMP unless the sig is on a very busy/detailed part background. You have to know that though.

We’re hoping for people to be sensible about these things
Considering what Derpi mods said, good luck. :D
Thank you though for managing the site in your free time. I know I wouldn’t have the motivation, let alone time and energy.
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Site and Policy » Opening Thread » Post 40

Admin

Administrator
@Background Pony #0B6C
Not really what I meant to imply… Just that by starting “fresh” the clear focus on content type will help and eventually build a “culture” of users naturally aiming for high quality.
On derpi there’s already “so much going on” that people just don’t care; it’s an effect that happens in every space, from websites to parties to videogames, the more people/activity and variety a place has, the less “pressure” a lot of people feel towards checking (or following) the rules/culture.
It’s my hope that over time this place will grow quite a bit, and I definitely don’t see the interest in AI waning any time soon.
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Site and Policy » Opening Thread » Post 38

Background Pony #97A4
@Admin
So same rules but more lax enforcement. I feel like that’ll still generate the same amount of time spent going back and forth but you guys clearly have more time and experience with that sorta stuff. Wish you guys nothing but the best, just not sold on this whole plan myself.
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Site and Policy » Opening Thread » Post 37

Nocturn

Moderator
Adjutant
@Background Pony #97A4
Those guides are meant to help people understand what kinds of quality issues we most often see that result in deletions, and to show people examples of what we may have to talk with them about when they appeal deletions.
It’s not a set of rules, but a way for us to communicate with creators here.
As an example, someone’s image is deleted because of a ghost signature. With the guides I can refer them to the section that talks about ghost signatures, and answer their questions rather than having to type the explanation every time it comes up.

Site and Policy » Opening Thread » Post 36

Admin

Administrator
@Background Pony #97A4
Yes, however please note the language is different; for derpi it’s a much clearer “pass/fail”, for here it’s “hey, look out for these sort of issues”, where too many, or some very bad ones, will likely lead to an image being removed.
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Site and Policy » Opening Thread » Post 35

Background Pony #97A4
@Admin
No you aren’t being snippy at all, I’m sure this is all a lot to undertake.
This page is the correct rule set for the site though, correct? I see this cuts two rules from the old derpi ones but this still seems rather extreme and a ton of effort to moderate. Are we just expecting this site to be that much less popular that it’ll be easier to moderate? Isn’t the idea for everyone who posted that mass of content on derpi to migrate here? It just feels like a recipe for disaster to move a growing problem to a smaller staff and expect them to somehow handle it with no additional tools or policy changes.
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Site and Policy » Opening Thread » Post 34

Admin

Administrator
@Background Pony #0B6C
The hope for here is that the site being new, its AI focus, and having an upfront set of visual examples will do most of the heavy lifting on their own, and when not, we have something fairly clear to point to instead of constant back and forth discussions with the affected uploader.
For derpi, the scale of the site makes it practically untenable. Barely anyone actually ever read the rules, every day multiple people far exceed the upload limit, and a high percentage of overall AI uploads present really egregious errors. Despite multiple mods spending most (if not all) of their time on the site just dealing with AI content, even after “hiring” more people, the amount of work just increased day after day.
Yes, a few people here and there saw the issues and worked to improve them. But those have been the minority, and for every prompter that gained an eye (or pride) for “quality”, or simply got the genning itch out of their system, three more would show up the next day.

And sorry myself if I’m being overly snippy; as you can imagine, it’s been “a day”.
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