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Site and Policy » Possible change to Creator tags. [Opinions needed] » Post 9

Teaspoon

poni
Was already stated, but main reasons this was brought up are:
  1. Redundant tagging separation, as we already have ai composition, ai generated, and ai assisted to separate “artistic effort”
  2. The way the site handles user links means people that do multiple types of content sort of get shafted; if someone sees prompter:blah and clicks for more, they won’t see all their artist:blah or editor:blah. Yes, site profile lists those… but that assumes there is a profile, and that the user knows to click on it to check… not great
  3. Automatic tagging from uploading currently defaults to prompter:blah, something uploaders might not change when appropriate
Basically we don’t want to lose the whole “separating pure prompted work from heavily guided and edited work” functionality, but the current way of doing it through both the type and origin tag seems clunky and overall detrimental.
As for the name of the tag itself, that’s far from settled. creator:blah felt neutral, director:blah is what’s used in e6ai so maybe people are used to that. author:blah could definitely work. There’s also producer:blah, or simply just by:blah.
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Site and Policy » Possible change to Creator tags. [Opinions needed] » Post 8

LightningBolt

Administrator
ADHD fueled
@MareStare
It’s also very annoying that different tags that refer to the same person have different followership, and thus if people are subscribed to prompter:marestare, for example, they won’t see new posts that contain editor:marestare or artist:marestare without the prompter:marestare tag. For this reason, I’ve been adding several variants of the authorship tags to my posts.
That sounds like a feature and not a bug, actually. Someone watching a person’s artist: tag may simply not be interested in their photographer: or editor: tag, so, no actually, those tags all exist separately for a reason, and using them all on the same image defeats the point and sounds silly to me. If someone wants to follow them all, they can, if they don’t want to, they shouldn’t be forced to. it’s not an all or nothing thing, they’re different things, and that’s okay.
(For the record, I’m against tag name unification)
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Site and Policy » Possible change to Creator tags. [Opinions needed] » Post 7

MareStare

Mare Zealot
I fully agree with @Heat Sink. It is indeed inconvenient to have several different ways to denote the author of the image. If you take a look at my user profile, you’ll see a combinatorial explosion of various authorship tags linked to my socials, because “artist links” were not well designed for having several authorship tags referring to the same person. It’s also very annoying that different tags that refer to the same person have different followership, and thus if people are subscribed to prompter:marestare, for example, they won’t see new posts that contain editor:marestare or artist:marestare without the prompter:marestare tag. For this reason, I’ve been adding several variants of the authorship tags to my posts.
It does seem very logical to decouple the authorship from the “level of human effort” categories of tags. Even on derpibooru, I think it would make sense to separate these concerns. For edits of other works, there could be a tag “edit”, and if people want to clarify who did what in multi-authored posts, they can do that via the description.
As for the unified tag naming, I don’t like the term “director”. I know it comes from e6ai, but I don’t like their choice because this tag doesn’t look all that intuitive for an outside person. An outside person would indeed look for something called creator or author. I think both are fine, but I lean more towards author for no specific reason other than maybe that it’s shorter.
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Site and Policy » Possible change to Creator tags. [Opinions needed] » Post 6

Scarlet Ribbon

True Wildcard
@Heat Sink
I can’t agree with making tags less distinct across the entire site to solve what is honestly going to be a pretty uncommon edge case. However, there might be some value in adding a ‘creator:xxxxxxx’ tag that is implied by any artist/prompter/editor tag if that edge case is important.
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Site and Policy » Possible change to Creator tags. [Opinions needed] » Post 5

Zerowinger

3-3/4" Army Man Fan
@Heat Sink
For creating a unified tag for identifying who made stuff, I guess it makes sense. I guess it’s more of a personal thing as I’m not really comfortable being referred to as a “creator,” when in my opinion I’m not really creating anything. I’m not sketching a start image or editing a traditional art image I made, I’m just entering text into a UI and clicking a button until I get something I like. At best I’ll evolve/duplicate generations and clean them up afterwards, but I still don’t know if that really makes me a creator.
I know this is kind of relitigating some of the arguments about AI that was had on Derpi and elsewhere, but to me it just feels like the term should be reserved for people who go beyond simple text prompting.
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Site and Policy » Possible change to Creator tags. [Opinions needed] » Post 4

Heat Sink

Administrator
@Zerowinger
We already have the “AI generated” & “AI composition” tags for this distinction.
Personally i feel that it would be redundant to also have a distinction in creator tags for it. When there can be a neutral unified tag that can signify who made it, and then the Generated or Composition tags for what kind of image it is.
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Site and Policy » Possible change to Creator tags. [Opinions needed] » Post 3

Heat Sink

Administrator
@Scarlet Ribbon
One of the reasons that i think we should unify the tags is because of users having to have separate tags to correctly tag there images.
For example i have seen one user that made an “artist” tag for themselves as the image they uploaded was a sketch using an AI image as base. And people following the users “Prompter” tag don’t see this image unless they stumble upon their profile and see that they also have an artist tag. I have seen several users that had to make a new creator tag to properly tag the image. With a unified tag a creator can put all their AI based art on one creator tag.
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Site and Policy » Possible change to Creator tags. [Opinions needed] » Post 2

Zerowinger

3-3/4" Army Man Fan
I guess “Creator” could work with more involved works that are more AI composition rather than purely AI generated that required significant editing or inputs outside of just prompts. However I think the other tags should remain, especially “Prompter,” given how many works are just generations and only involve prompts.
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Site and Policy » Possible change to Creator tags. [Opinions needed] » Post 1

Site and Policy » Possible change to Creator tags. [Opinions needed] » Topic Opener

Heat Sink

Administrator
Hello Everypony (and other creatures),
we, the Staff have been discussing a topic which we would like the community’s opinion on.
Since the start of Tantabus there have been three sorts of creator tags. “Prompter”, “Editor” & “Artist”
Now, there has been talks in the staff channels to combine these three creator tags into a single tag.
The staff already came up with a few suggestions like keeping “Prompter” as the single unified creator tag, but we also thought of alternatives like “Creator” or “Director”. if you have any idea or preference what this tag should be called if it is decided to continue this change, we would love to hear it.
This does not impact the “AI generated” & “AI Composition” tags. These will be functioning the same if it is decided that we go through with this change.
We would like to know your opinion on this idea, if you think this change will be a good idea or not, and to help us with ideas what to name this unified tag.
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Site and Policy » Nightly database dumps broken » Post 3

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Site and Policy » Nightly database dumps broken » Post 1

Delly

Administrator
Certified Blueberry
Apologies about that, I know what’s wrong, and will fix it tomorrow.
Thank you for bringing it up!
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Site and Policy » Nightly database dumps broken » Topic Opener

Site and Policy » A section for commissions? » Post 2

Site and Policy » Upload limits? » Post 2

Background Pony #E25C
X/day in general is really bad idea
X/week is somewhat fine
But in general you have filters
Just sort out low quality spammers and thats it
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Site and Policy » A section for commissions? » Post 1

Admin

Administrator
We disabled the commission listing here because of the experience on derpi of the overhead it creates while not actually having that much engagement. Basically plenty of people treat it as more than a listing and think the site itself is handling the listing or even acting as a middleman, and moderating that sort of stuff where money’s involved is… not great. Add to that the aspect of AI and art styles, our collective livers don’t need the extra punishment.
No issue with there being a thread or people linking stuff on their profiles and images, though.
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Site and Policy » A section for commissions? » Topic Opener

Dogman15

There could be a market of people who would rather pay other people to make AI-generated pony-related images for them. People who don’t want to spend the time to learn the intricate ways of coaxing the best images out of a generator, or don’t want to put their money directly into a website that does image generations. Pay someone who’s already familiar with how to manipulate the software.
https://derpibooru.org/commissions
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Site and Policy » Badges? » Post 3

Site and Policy » Upload limits? » Post 1

Cadance

Moderator
Da Crazy Pone
@Phemto
While we certainly appreciate the proposal, I think that what we have currently is okay and can just deal with the problem people as they arise.
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Site and Policy » Upload limits? » Topic Opener

Phemto

The DB upload limits on AI (2/day as I recall) were straight up moral panic, since people could just as easily spam-upload their entire scanned sketch book or 50 different angles of their 3D scene. The specific targeting of AI was misguided, but the idea upload limits wasn’t without merit.
I’d like to propose a less restrictive (and fair) version for tantabus. It would help people fight the temptation to upload every generation from a session, and save viewers from seeing a wall of similar images when they first load the site. It shouldn’t feel punitive or be something that most people would run up against in ordinary usage, though. Maybe 10 / day?
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Site and Policy » Badges? » Post 2

Site and Policy » Badges? » Post 1

Bendy and Boney

Assistant
dressed in baloney
I’ve talked with the staff about this and there aren’t any… yet.
(still waiting on my ‘usually puts in more than the bare minimum’ badge)
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Site and Policy » Site Development Notification and Feedback Thread » Topic Opener

Admin

Administrator
This will mostly be used to highlight features specific to Tantabus, or that could be relevant to all users. For most updates and feedback you should check the thread on derpi, as that’s the primary for Philomena development.
Now with that said…

[March 19 2025]

- New search and tag suggestions

  • Go to Settings and Metadata (Fancy tags) and Local (search auto-completion) to enable
  • This will autosuggest tags as you type so long as they exist on an image
  • This will show if a suggestion is aliased
  • For searches, you can set to also keep search history

- CivitAI post scraper

  • The upload “Fetch” function now supports CivitAI /posts/# URLs
  • This will grab the images under a given CivitAI post, and you can select which to use
  • Direct image URLs aren’t supported (API limitation), but every image is part of a Post, even if it’s just one
  • Fetch still uses “artist:” instead of something more appropriate… we’ll work on that
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