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@Background Pony #46E0
A bit of both. In many cases, the way a pony might do a given action is very different from how a human would perform the same action, and as such, many models fail to come up with equine-accurate ways of portraying those actions. IMG2IMG and ControlNet based workflows both can assist to a large degree on that front, and I have used them to considerable success in some outputs, but that requires having a good source image first.

You mean these actions are not applicable to ponies at all (like because they don’t have hands or something) or you mean these actions are too hard to generate with ponies because the model doesn’t understand what to generate? If the second case, can you please give some examples of such actions? I would like to try out if it can be generated with img2img.

Zecora applying lotion.

@Zerowinger
Coco’s always cute!

@Scarlet Ribbon
I’d say your half right. People are pretty creative, most just do / choose to do NSFW stuff, or so it seems.
Your completely correct as far as trying to figure out what the model understands and doesn’t understand (I recently did a Christmas themed image and found out that the model I was using didn’t understand what horse reins were, had to use a NSFW at very low weights to get it to work).

@Background Pony #A3FD
I’d like to see that too, more interesting SFW type stuff. It’s actually what I’m slowly working on right now. Working around what the model knows and doesn’t etc is definitely a challenge. Been getting help from various discord servers here and there but I’ve only just started down this path.

@Background Pony #A3FD
Part of the problem is that most people aren’t very creative with their prompts. I try to have a fair amount of variety, but there’s a lot of actions that don’t translate to ponies very well, and finding that intersection of ‘the model understands it’ and ‘the prompter thinks to try it’ isn’t always clear.

What I’d like is more images that are not saucy at all. I like happy ponies in particular. The problem is that most of those tend to be simple images of a pony standing or doing something trivial. I want to see more interesting images. I want to see unique styles. I want to see funny comics. Seriously, I can give you some 2-3 panel comic ideas which are at least better than nothing.

Regarding the lack of comments, Derpi has more but it also has more users. Tanta is small. Images usually get like 10-50 upvotes. 2 comments on an image is already a lot.

@Admin
I’m just relaying an explanation of what that error should mean. I’ve not seen it personally.

@sammykun
@Scarlet Ribbon
Are you sure that was the message? There aren’t any images deleted with the “DNP” in the reason, and the DNP system should be turned off here…

What was the video?

@sammykun
That means you are not permitted to upload images from that artist. DNP = Do Not Post.

@Lord Waite
Honestly, if Chroma-HD could be fine-tuned on Ponies and had better style consistency, I think it could be amazing. I’ve made some pretty crazy shit with it even without LoRAs already, but the inconsistency combined with generally slower performance is a killer.

@Scarlet Ribbon
Yeah, that is pretty terrible.

I wish someone else would just finetune a model well on ponies, so it knows the styles and the major and more minor characters…

(Quickly got tired of trying out pony v7, because so many other better models were coming out.)

Allow me to share a comment I wrote on PonyV7 discussion on reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/1oxd627/pony_v7_style_cluster_comparison/np04kc8/

TL;DR the style clusters have prompt bleed into each other, which makes the whole concept absolutely busted in a bad way.

@truekry
I’m rather shocked that one wasn’t on my faves list on Derpi and had its vote already migrated over. That is classic clop.

You can get more horse like features very easy. Like here.
I didn’t add “My Little Pony” to the prompt and tpony, and offshoot of ponyv6, made this from that.

@truekry
To your point, all my biggest peeves of AI ponies are the same as the popular trends I despise in hand-drawn ponies. I wonder how img2img using IRL horse photos as reference would change things…

[I have an M1 Max with 64GB of RAM, so I’ve got the power to run it locally. Just need to actually get things installed.]