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Site and Policy » Possible change to Creator tags. [Opinions needed] » Post 46
Thanks for the update, I think the winning option is a good change.
Site and Policy » Possible change to Creator tags. [Opinions needed] » Post 45
Hello Everypony,
My apologies for the long wait. The holidays were quite busy for me personally.
Having gone through all the messages here i condensed them into four options and tallied what each opinion was and came out to the following result (excluding staff).
My apologies for the long wait. The holidays were quite busy for me personally.
Having gone through all the messages here i condensed them into four options and tallied what each opinion was and came out to the following result (excluding staff).
Community:
Implying existing tags into a unified tag : II
Unify but keep Editor separate for edits: II
Keep them separate: I
Unify into one tag: III
After that i went into the staff channel and asked the staff members to also vote on these four options which got the following result
Staff:
Implying existing tags into a unified tag : III
Unify but keep Editor separate for edits: V
Keep them separate: II
Unify into one tag:
Counting them up we got the following result
Total:
Implying existing tags into a unified tag : V
Unify but keep Editor separate for edits: VII
Keep them separate: III
Unify into one tag: III
In which the option to unify the
We don’t have a new name for the unified Artist+Prompter tag yet, but i am planning on creating a new thread today in which we will ask for suggestions on the new name for the unified Artist+Prompter from the community and add the suggestions that were given here into the new thread.
Artist: & Prompter: tags into one tag but keeping the Editor: tag separate won by two votes.We don’t have a new name for the unified Artist+Prompter tag yet, but i am planning on creating a new thread today in which we will ask for suggestions on the new name for the unified Artist+Prompter from the community and add the suggestions that were given here into the new thread.
Site and Policy » Site performance » Topic Opener
Over about the past week or so, the Tantabus.ai main page, and image pages, have been extremely slow to load, occasionally taking well over a minute to complete. I’m on a 200-Mbps cable connection, and I’ve performed a variety of ping and speed tests to confirm the problem lies not on my end. Other ’boorus are performing as expected*.
In addition to the Webpages loading slowly, image file downloads also sometimes slow to the low-KiB/s range, and result in taking several minutes to complete, or (more lately) complete failure.
Note that this is NOT ALWAYS the case. It’s a very intermittent problem; one image page might load fine, the next could take two or three minutes, and it seems to have absolutely NO relation to the file size or content type presented.
This ‘booru is the only one I visit that has been having these problems, to an extent that interferes with using the site. I’m not mad or anything; I just wanted to bring it to attention, so that it can be fixed for all. :)
* Derpibooru is having its own (Cloudflare-related?) hiccups now. No time-outs, just slow page-loading.
–> And just now, I had an SSL handshake failure (error code 525). Hmm….
FYI, my system is running Arch Linux, using Firefox 146.0.1 – yes, I know, I need to update to 147. :P
EDIT: I’ve been made aware by support on Discord that there’s a buttload of maintenance going on with Cloudflare right now…but mainly in Europe? I’m in the Midwest, though. Weird.
Site and Policy » Possible change to Creator tags. [Opinions needed] » Post 44
@tyto4tme4l
Sorry for the late response. I am still working on this, just didn’t had much time to work on it during the Holidays. Will probably come back to the community with an update in the next few days.
Sorry for the late response. I am still working on this, just didn’t had much time to work on it during the Holidays. Will probably come back to the community with an update in the next few days.
Site and Policy » Possible change to Creator tags. [Opinions needed] » Post 43
Has this matter been settled yet?
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Site and Policy » Unable to update filters? » Topic Opener
Trying to add a tag to my Hidden tags on my usual filter, when I hit save changes it says it is saved successfully, but there are no changes to the filter. I have verified that the tag I’m adding is correct, and it is happening with more than one filter.
Site and Policy » Possible change to Creator tags. [Opinions needed] » Post 42
Not sure if this is settled at this point but guess I’ll throw in my two cents.
Personally I don’t really use any of the others. I’ve always just used
prompter:star streaker for my images because I’m prompting the AI to work for me. So I’m biased a little and say I still like using “prompter:*” but I think creator works well. A unified by:x tag would work pretty well too. Like a default tag automatically applied to each use or the implications @derp621 mentioned. That might be the most scalable option but probably the most complicated.Site and Policy » Possible change to Creator tags. [Opinions needed] » Post 41
i like “director”
Site and Policy » Possible change to Creator tags. [Opinions needed] » Post 40
Having an implication of sorts might be good way to go, but it’d require some tech changes to deal with the issues that lead to this discussion in the first place.
Site and Policy » Possible change to Creator tags. [Opinions needed] » Post 39
I think
artist:x, prompter:x and editor:x implying by:x or similar automatically would be the best of both worlds.Whatever you do don’t consolidate everything into
artist:x as that would cause confusion for other boorus and individuls that import tags from Tantabus.Site and Policy » Possible change to Creator tags. [Opinions needed] » Post 37
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I think that both arguments for simplification and for more nuance are valid. Personally, I only feel strongly about easy following. I don’t really care whether you unify all tags into a single
originator:xxx or if you make the separate editor:xxx/prompter:xxx/artist:xxx imply originator:xxx.Site and Policy » Possible change to Creator tags. [Opinions needed] » Post 36
One singular tag for creator is perfectly fine. Can literally be anything.
Site and Policy » Possible change to Creator tags. [Opinions needed] » Post 35
@MareStare
I simply disagree with your opinion that few people care as in such they don’t matter.
I simply disagree with your opinion that few people care as in such they don’t matter.
Site and Policy » Possible change to Creator tags. [Opinions needed] » Post 34
I used my filter as an example of what I see as the ordinary user. That’s it. I just do not see how this:
Very few people care about the role the creator played in the art piece.
contradicts with this:
I do, I care, a lot. I also care a lot about indexing roles. I also search for those tags likewingsandopen moutha lot.
“Very few” does not mean zero. So I’m not sure what you wanted to say with that. My suggestion was a compromise approach whereby role tags are optional, if people want to use them, they can add them. For common users that don’t care they may omit them, but the “creator” tag should be mandatory.
Site and Policy » Possible change to Creator tags. [Opinions needed] » Post 33
@MareStare
I am trying to take into account people who’s opinions are not mine, there is a person in this very thread who’s opinion isn’t what you are assuming. I’m not sure what your filter has to do with anything or what you added to it, that isn’t relevant.
I am trying to take into account people who’s opinions are not mine, there is a person in this very thread who’s opinion isn’t what you are assuming. I’m not sure what your filter has to do with anything or what you added to it, that isn’t relevant.
Site and Policy » Possible change to Creator tags. [Opinions needed] » Post 32
I’m speaking from the experience of using derpibooru/tantabus and having nothing more than
grotesque, morbidly obese and some creator tags added to filters. I’ve been using the standard Everything for years until very recently. Mostly looking through the first several pages of the most recent posts, trending, and checking the faves. I believe most people who aren’t involved in tagging, day-to-day metadata updates and power-using the system are just like that. Since many such low-end people do not even read forums or sit on Tantabus Discord, their opinions are left in a void, and it’s important to take that into account. Some common sense guesswork here is unavoidableSite and Policy » Possible change to Creator tags. [Opinions needed] » Post 31
@MareStare
That’s a big assumption to make that even I’m not making and I find that assuming like that isn’t practical and only serves to make someone’s opinion seem more important than it is.
That’s a big assumption to make that even I’m not making and I find that assuming like that isn’t practical and only serves to make someone’s opinion seem more important than it is.
Site and Policy » Possible change to Creator tags. [Opinions needed] » Post 30
That’s why I mentioned
I think very few power users have such specific filters.
Meaning there is demand from power users, but it’s low because the number of power users is naturally low.
Site and Policy » Possible change to Creator tags. [Opinions needed] » Post 29
Very few people care about the role the creator played in the art piece.
I do, I care, a lot. I also care a lot about indexing roles. I also search for those tags like
wings and open mouth a lot.Site and Policy » Possible change to Creator tags. [Opinions needed] » Post 28
Knowing what role a person played in the project is cool just for bookkeeping and historical purposes, but not for indexing purposes. Here’s what I mean by that.
We have a bunch of tags like
wings, horn, tail, shirt, desk, open mouth and other minor tags like that which (I think) very rarely get searched for. Meaning people rarely put them into the search box when they come to visit the site and see what new art has been posted, or into the faves and filters. I think very few power users have such specific filters.Same thing with the creator tags. Very few people care about the role the creator played in the art piece. I think the “creator” tag would have a much greater demand than
artist/editor/prompter. I guess it’s fine to keep the “role” tags as metadata facts but at most as best-effort tags. We may not even always know what role people played in the art piece when it gets reposted to tantabus by a 3-rd party who didn’t take part in the creative process. On the contrary I think at least one “creator” tag should be enforced, unless explicit “anonymous creator” or “unknown creator” tag is assigned.Site and Policy » Possible change to Creator tags. [Opinions needed] » Post 27
@Scarlet Ribbon
But does an average user care about distinctions like that? Especially if (in the vast majority of cases) “artist”, “prompter” and “editor” would be the same person? I think this distinction is just unnecessary.
But does an average user care about distinctions like that? Especially if (in the vast majority of cases) “artist”, “prompter” and “editor” would be the same person? I think this distinction is just unnecessary.
Site and Policy » Possible change to Creator tags. [Opinions needed] » Post 26
I don’t know how others are using them, but I would use them as follows:
artist: A person who creates any input work that is pre-existing art into the AI pipeline
prompter: A person who actually writes the prompt/creates the workflow/engages the AI portion of the process
editor: A person who edits the AI output into a finished product
prompter: A person who actually writes the prompt/creates the workflow/engages the AI portion of the process
editor: A person who edits the AI output into a finished product
These are absolutely all useful tags that have no business being removed from stuff, however, they’re only useful if they’re being applied correctly.
Site and Policy » Possible change to Creator tags. [Opinions needed] » Post 24
After reading about how ‘effort’ tags already exist, I now fully agree with a “creator” tag. With “Editor” remaining for it’s intended purpose, for when someone else was the prompter.
Edit: If someone puts someone elses generated art back into the ai generator, I assume if the original image is still clearly there, like in cases here people put someone’s generated art into an AI purely to animate it, that the right tag to use would be “creator” for both of them? Or would you use an editor tag for the second prompter? Just unsure if editor is the right tag when it’s the AI doing the editing. This is the one thing I can’t yet wrap my head around to be sure on.
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