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@Background Pony #0B6C
Not really what I meant to imply… Just that by starting “fresh” the clear focus on content type will help and eventually build a “culture” of users naturally aiming for high quality.

On derpi there’s already “so much going on” that people just don’t care; it’s an effect that happens in every space, from websites to parties to videogames, the more people/activity and variety a place has, the less “pressure” a lot of people feel towards checking (or following) the rules/culture.

It’s my hope that over time this place will grow quite a bit, and I definitely don’t see the interest in AI waning any time soon.

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@Admin
So same rules but more lax enforcement. I feel like that’ll still generate the same amount of time spent going back and forth but you guys clearly have more time and experience with that sorta stuff. Wish you guys nothing but the best, just not sold on this whole plan myself.

@Background Pony #97A4
Those guides are meant to help people understand what kinds of quality issues we most often see that result in deletions, and to show people examples of what we may have to talk with them about when they appeal deletions.

It’s not a set of rules, but a way for us to communicate with creators here.

As an example, someone’s image is deleted because of a ghost signature. With the guides I can refer them to the section that talks about ghost signatures, and answer their questions rather than having to type the explanation every time it comes up.

@Background Pony #97A4
Yes, however please note the language is different; for derpi it’s a much clearer “pass/fail”, for here it’s “hey, look out for these sort of issues”, where too many, or some very bad ones, will likely lead to an image being removed.

@Admin
No you aren’t being snippy at all, I’m sure this is all a lot to undertake.

This page is the correct rule set for the site though, correct? I see this cuts two rules from the old derpi ones but this still seems rather extreme and a ton of effort to moderate. Are we just expecting this site to be that much less popular that it’ll be easier to moderate? Isn’t the idea for everyone who posted that mass of content on derpi to migrate here? It just feels like a recipe for disaster to move a growing problem to a smaller staff and expect them to somehow handle it with no additional tools or policy changes.

@Background Pony #0B6C
The hope for here is that the site being new, its AI focus, and having an upfront set of visual examples will do most of the heavy lifting on their own, and when not, we have something fairly clear to point to instead of constant back and forth discussions with the affected uploader.

For derpi, the scale of the site makes it practically untenable. Barely anyone actually ever read the rules, every day multiple people far exceed the upload limit, and a high percentage of overall AI uploads present really egregious errors. Despite multiple mods spending most (if not all) of their time on the site just dealing with AI content, even after “hiring” more people, the amount of work just increased day after day.

Yes, a few people here and there saw the issues and worked to improve them. But those have been the minority, and for every prompter that gained an eye (or pride) for “quality”, or simply got the genning itch out of their system, three more would show up the next day.

And sorry myself if I’m being overly snippy; as you can imagine, it’s been “a day”.

Except by definition ‘imgur for pony content’ would be just that, a different site for pony content, not just imgur itself. If you want to moderate content here then so be it, I’m unclear on how there’s any hope of that succeeding here when the larger and more experienced staff at derpi failed at the exact same task though.

@Background Pony #0B6C
Honestly it feels like the derpi staff just wants to dumb the problem on someone else and hope it goes away. Of course it won’t, and this will just create more confusion and an overall worse experience for everyone, themselves included. They’re also deleting and banning people who disagree over in the announcement thread on their side. This whole thing is a mess.

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Is there a chance that a Maximum Spoilers filter identical to the one in Derpibooru could be made here?

Also, please tell me if this isn’t the right place for this, and if it isn’t then let me know what is. I just joined

@Background Pony #97A4
A. There’re some bare minimum expectations on quality because we want to encourage better creations over pure slop.
B. If someone “spams” they’ll be asked not to, and moderated if they continue. We’re hoping for people to be sensible about these things and not just dump their latest batch of 150 generations all in one go.

If people want imgur for pony content then, well, imgur is right there.

@Background Pony #0B6C
Pretty much half the “derpi team” has auto1111 or comfyui set up, or an active (paying) civitai account, and are quite fond of using AI themselves. What they don’t like is people churning out low quality “slop” where they saw the big tits or ponut and didn’t care about the missing arm or second horn. Despite the tech getting far better, people overall have somehow gotten worse at realizing their gens are full of errors.

“But human made art also has errors and that gets a pass!”
ok 👍

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@Admin
ahh thanks yeah i was active on derpi and also have the artist /prompter link to my derpi link here. And no worries. completly understandable that you guys wanna wait for that!

From a quick glance at the rules I’m not sure I understand the purpose of this whole site or the split in general. It seems that:

A. There will still be policing of art quality on here (for some reason).
B. There will be generally no rate limit on posting.

If the original issue was increased workload on the derpi staff to gatekeep art then why would making a new site with less staff, which allows for even more art, be a solution to that? How is this in the interest of the community and not just an attempt by the derpi staff to offload the consequences of their own decisions onto another mod team? I find the idea of policing what people post frankly bizarre on both sites but especially on this one. I can post anything I want on DeviantArt or most other image boards. The voting system can decide what floats to the top or not. Why are we treating this and derpi like private art galleries run to the personal taste of mods and not freely shared community resources?

Just call it tantabooru. references tantabus but still keeps the familiar ‘booru’ naming

This would be a page linked in the site footer that showcases the capabilities of the various AI models from back in the old StyleGAN days through whatever latest PonyDiffusion beta. Each entry ideally would have at least four examples: two of “typical” output and two of the model at its best (potentially with light retouching). Perhaps also an optional bonus column for noteworthy fuckups and WTF moments.

I understand if you all want to keep this as an unofficial “c’mon, let’s use common sense here” policy rather than amend Rule 9.

@Starshine
Eventually, yes. We’d like to give it a short bit before opening applications given everyone is “new” here, as is everything. If you’re already active on derpi then that might speed things up a bit, but still likely a few weeks before we’d start on that.

@n
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@Background Pony #ED54
Thanks for pointing that out, should be sorted now. If you see any other issues please do let us know.

@DroolingDreamer
And yes, the name is meant as a reference to the Luna’s nightmare construct, seeing as so many other ai related sites and services really ham up the whole “dream” thing as much as they can.

@Background Pony #0B6C
It’s not intended to be a ghetto, just more permissive.

@MareStare
@Awkward Segway

Looks to be a bug on default values being set wrong on seeding an account. Apologies for that; not sure if it’ll be fixed as there are other changes in the pipeline heavily affecting themes.

@MareStare
This is something that I suggested on Derpibooru, but it never got acted on. When logged out, the site’s theme is the same as your browser or system theme (not sure which). When you log in though, the site’s theme is set by your settings, and there’s no option to have the theme be set automatically in your settings.

I suggested adding that option, but it never got added. I don’t know why they make it able to sync to your browser/system theme when not logged in, but not have that option when logged in.

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@n
I assume it’s a reference to the show’s character + ai. Guessing the .ai is cheaper than the other domains but it’s also much more straightforward.

After registration, clicking the confirmation link in the email sent just dumps me to the Tantabus homepage, with the message:

Which is obviously incorrect, because I then logged-in without issue. LoL

Oh hey, do/can I get a badge for being an early-bird? :3

Praise Lord Ganesha. 😁

I had been assembling a script, in the back of my mind, to save everything that’ll be nuked in a month. I’m just thankful I won’t have to implement it now.

nevermind. it was going to my spam folder……

i’ve been trying to make an account all day but im not getting the confirmation email to complete the process.

Hi, when I logged in the color theme suddenly switched to Light. Consider keeping the Dark theme by default