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@truekry
I’m rather shocked that one wasn’t on my faves list on Derpi and had its vote already migrated over. That is classic clop.

You can get more horse like features very easy. Like here.
I didn’t add “My Little Pony” to the prompt and tpony, and offshoot of ponyv6, made this from that.

@truekry
To your point, all my biggest peeves of AI ponies are the same as the popular trends I despise in hand-drawn ponies. I wonder how img2img using IRL horse photos as reference would change things…

[I have an M1 Max with 64GB of RAM, so I’ve got the power to run it locally. Just need to actually get things installed.]

@🐴
The thing is, we have little choice in that regard. The loras for that are all “big mode.” Getting smaller, oval shaped ones, aka more equine in nature, was always a battle fought with the models and loras (for the ponies in general) with a lot of manual editing.

But see, this feedback alone helped. We can talk about issues like that and why things are as they are.

@truekry
Some of it is that listing specific likes and dislikes would get repetitive and spammy for me. There are only so many times I can complain about the giant floppy crotchboobs everyone else here enjoys before I get myself worked up and become the first person to be banned for heterophobia. Likewise, “finally, a horse-shaped horse” has too little variety to be intellectually stimulating.

Okay, please hear me out on this one if you can: I want to start off by saying hello and thank you for giving me the opportunity to make this; in all honesty, I would have been better off starting this on a computer instead.

Anyway, I must do this because I’m not liking how some people can’t even tag properly as they should: although this is admittedly a common problem for many an imageboard, it should’ve been avoided no less; still, it’s clear that I must bring this issue to light.

Today, I’d recently came across an image that was tagged suggestive despite the nudity: though hardly new, the lack of professionalism alone was enough for me to take action at it were; nevertheless, it’s imperative that I shine some light on this.

Many users like, and unlike, myself have been well acquainted with the rules of this site: considering it was recently spun off from its predecessor, derpibooru, it was the least that could be done; of course, there have been cases where mistakes were made.

Either way, we the people have a responsibility to utilize tags to the utmost of our abilities: even though this is a free site, trouble ahead could be sprung up for anyone using a standard filter; besides, any anonymous user could stumble about.

As such, it’s vital that this spinoff must be handled with care all the very same no matter what: considering how often politicians have tried to censor the web over the decades, this wouldn’t be usual; ergo, the last thing we need is some Karen ranting on.

Likewise, all that should be is we use our good judgement in uploading any and all images as is: I don’t like stopping to anyone’s level when it comes to being goody Lovejoy, so to speak of; as such, I apologize for having to use such an intonation either way.

A recent one that I was pleased with how it came out.

@Heat Sink
I leave a comment from time to time too, positive or negative. So far only 1 or 2 creators showed that they reacted and 1 lashed out at me for pointing out a mistake. It is what it is. I rather have it that way than total silence.

@truekry
About a month ago i personally did comment a bit on images that were posted here, but i only pointed out the positive stuff of what i liked on a picture. Mostly because i am unsure if the creator of said image would appreciate feedback on their images.

@truekry
I agree on missing feedback. Being told something as simple as “this is a cool idea” or “I like how this came out” would be nice.

@truekry
Hear here!

The worst thing about the silence is the missing feedback in my opinion. What did the people like about a picture, what did they dislike? Why did you get a down vote, why and up vote? It hard to guess. The only thing you can do for sure most people will like is plot to the face. I know, sex sells and all that, but I find it sad that we have this powerful tool that is AI, but if you want people to notice your art it better have plot in it. It also gives tantabus the vibe of a AI pony porn site and less AI pony art site.

I don’t mind the natural language prompting as much, since I’ve gotten used to Chroma, but the style clusters seem to both be necessary and a total mess and it’s pretty unreliable. I’d personally rather have a version of Chroma fine-tuned on ponies, or something similar.

Someone finetuning ponyv6 or something illustrious/noob based so that 90% of the pony character loras weren’t needed would be great as well.

(Another model that has some promise is NetaYume Lumina, but, IIRC, ponies didn’t come out very well on it when I tried it.)

Hopefully pony v8 being based on Qwen will end up better…

Well, from what I remember, there was going to be version 6.9 based on SDXL, but it didn’t happen. Using AuraFlow as a base seemed like the best option at the time, since there was no real alternative like Flux Schnell or Qwen then.

Putting issues with development and deployment aside, the current PonyV7 version seems like a fundamentally broken model hampered by the initial decisions and the lack of proper documentation. Focusing on the natural language prompting instead of tags made the model a chore to use, requiring a ridiculously long and flowery prompt to get any useful results. Using style clusters instead of artist tags looked like an interesting idea, but it turned out to be an utter mess, considering no documentation on these clusters and them clearly not working as intended.

The end result is a model that is slow, inconsistent, difficult to use and creates outputs that are SDXL-level at best and SD 1.5 level most of the time. I don’t see any reason to use it over the current Noob-based, or even PonyV6-based models, which are better in pretty much every single way.

I’m curious to know what this community thinks of ponyV7.

Personally, I think it’s a good model, but it should have used SDXL as a base.. Training loRAs is impossible (for me atleast, as someone who uses a AMD 16gb GPU on windows + has 32gb RAM), AuraFlow isn’t… the greatest base model… if they NEEDED to use a model that isn’t SDXL, then they could’ve used FLUX.. etc

In short, they probably should have used SDXL as the base model, but that’s my personal opinion.

What do y’all think? :o